Wonder Woman
Jun. 9th, 2017 12:10 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dhampyresaI enjoyed it A LOT. I'm always a sucker for women fighting stuff, people being kind and righteously angry in the face of evil and fishes out of water situation; this movie delivers on all of this!
I saw it in VOSTFR. Only things I remember about the subtitling was that (a) we didn't get subtitles for whatever was said in French and (b) Steve called Diana 'vous' for a majority, if not all, the movie. I'll be using the names as they appeared in the subtitles.
I did not expect the framing device to have Diana living in France and working at the Louvre. Kind of really want a Diana vs recent French history fic, now.
I really wanted to title this "Don't bring a sword to a god fight".
The "Diana is basically a Greek golem" version of her origion story is my favourite and I'm really happy they went with it here. "[Her] mother fashioned her from clay" and "that's neat"!
I really loved seeing all the Amazons fight because wowza they look amazing. One of the characters at one point goes "An entire island of women like her? How do we get there?" and HARD SAME. (Then I felt bad, because my girlfriend was sitting right newt to me -- then again she is kind of build like an Amazon.)
Could have done with slightly less slow mo.
The entire movie is essentially "Diana no" "DIANA YES".
I was surprised at how many Americans were in this movie about WW1. Two is a lot! The US was basically 15mn late with Starbucks in WW1. Then again Chief, who is Native American (Blackfoot) had some very pointed comments to make about non-Native Americans.
I had reservations about the setting being WW1, but I think the movie handled it mostly okay. I would have liked Samir to be explicitly French* rather than it being subtext and/or headcanon -- I'm not just saying that because I was reading Le chat du rabbin recently. Samir has a French accent and it makes more sense for someone who "wanted to be an actor but [he] was the wrong colour" and is of North African descent to be from the French colonial empire rather than the British. Also, it would be really weord for a WW1 movie set in mostly-France to not have a single French* character. Also also, I feel like the fact that France was a colonial empire at the time of the World Wars is often not mentionned and/or deliberately silenced (hahaha my country sometimes you really suck) even though, for example, the Division marocaine (Moroccan Division) was the most decorated French* unit in WW1.
*(for a value of French that includes the French colonial empire)
I appreciated that the war was portrayed as A COMPLETE SHITSHOW with all sides sharing their part of responsibility in the mess that it is.
The last fight lasted too long and tbh I think it would have been more relevant to the point of the movie if Ares hadn't been there. I tend not to like stories where non-humans are responsible for horrors humans did, but I could tolerate it here.
ANYWAY DIANA IS THE BEST. SHE IS SO BRAVE AND SO SMART AND SO STRONG AND HAS MUSCLES UP TO HERE (fitness goals!) AND SO KIND AND SO PRETTY AND SHE KICKS SO MUCH ASS.
I want her to each Etta how to fight and go to suffragette meetings. (I ship it.)
I appreciated that Dr Maru aka Dr Poison wasn't the ~femme fatale~ kind of female villain. Nope. SHE IS HERE TO POISON YOUR FACE. But she is still worthy of mercy, because everyone is. (I also ship it.)
Also, Hyppolyta and Antiope are SO MARRIED and that "sister" is for "sister in arms". I was also pleased that there was a line about men not being necessary for pleasure.
I reccomend it and would happily watch several movies of Diana kicking ass all over history.
I saw it in VOSTFR. Only things I remember about the subtitling was that (a) we didn't get subtitles for whatever was said in French and (b) Steve called Diana 'vous' for a majority, if not all, the movie. I'll be using the names as they appeared in the subtitles.
I did not expect the framing device to have Diana living in France and working at the Louvre. Kind of really want a Diana vs recent French history fic, now.
I really wanted to title this "Don't bring a sword to a god fight".
The "Diana is basically a Greek golem" version of her origion story is my favourite and I'm really happy they went with it here. "[Her] mother fashioned her from clay" and "that's neat"!
I really loved seeing all the Amazons fight because wowza they look amazing. One of the characters at one point goes "An entire island of women like her? How do we get there?" and HARD SAME. (Then I felt bad, because my girlfriend was sitting right newt to me -- then again she is kind of build like an Amazon.)
Could have done with slightly less slow mo.
The entire movie is essentially "Diana no" "DIANA YES".
I was surprised at how many Americans were in this movie about WW1. Two is a lot! The US was basically 15mn late with Starbucks in WW1. Then again Chief, who is Native American (Blackfoot) had some very pointed comments to make about non-Native Americans.
I had reservations about the setting being WW1, but I think the movie handled it mostly okay. I would have liked Samir to be explicitly French* rather than it being subtext and/or headcanon -- I'm not just saying that because I was reading Le chat du rabbin recently. Samir has a French accent and it makes more sense for someone who "wanted to be an actor but [he] was the wrong colour" and is of North African descent to be from the French colonial empire rather than the British. Also, it would be really weord for a WW1 movie set in mostly-France to not have a single French* character. Also also, I feel like the fact that France was a colonial empire at the time of the World Wars is often not mentionned and/or deliberately silenced (hahaha my country sometimes you really suck) even though, for example, the Division marocaine (Moroccan Division) was the most decorated French* unit in WW1.
*(for a value of French that includes the French colonial empire)
I appreciated that the war was portrayed as A COMPLETE SHITSHOW with all sides sharing their part of responsibility in the mess that it is.
The last fight lasted too long and tbh I think it would have been more relevant to the point of the movie if Ares hadn't been there. I tend not to like stories where non-humans are responsible for horrors humans did, but I could tolerate it here.
ANYWAY DIANA IS THE BEST. SHE IS SO BRAVE AND SO SMART AND SO STRONG AND HAS MUSCLES UP TO HERE (fitness goals!) AND SO KIND AND SO PRETTY AND SHE KICKS SO MUCH ASS.
I want her to each Etta how to fight and go to suffragette meetings. (I ship it.)
I appreciated that Dr Maru aka Dr Poison wasn't the ~femme fatale~ kind of female villain. Nope. SHE IS HERE TO POISON YOUR FACE. But she is still worthy of mercy, because everyone is. (I also ship it.)
Also, Hyppolyta and Antiope are SO MARRIED and that "sister" is for "sister in arms". I was also pleased that there was a line about men not being necessary for pleasure.
I reccomend it and would happily watch several movies of Diana kicking ass all over history.
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Date: 2017-06-09 01:34 am (UTC)Agreed about the last fight being too long, tho'. I tend to get bored during "final boss" scenes in superhero movies anyway, but... eh. It just kind of dragged a little.
Also agreed on shipping Diana/Etta and Diana/Dr Maru, whups. You know, I actually found myself a lot more interested in Maru than I ever would have expected to be... I dunno, maybe the mask drew me in. And the fact that she's here to, as you put it, POISON YOUR FACE.
Hadn't even considered the stuff about Samir, but I get what you're saying. It would've been good if the film had been more clear about those details. It's really weird that there aren't any named French characters in this film, now that you point it out. :Va
& Like one of the commenters above, I'm going to assume Chief is meant to be from Canada. Partly because the actor + more statistically likely, but also because, even if it isn't specifically mentioned, I just... would like to pretend he's a reference to the Indigenous contributions to Canada's war effort (which, like the French Colonial divisions you mentioned, are not acknowledged nearly enough in anything).
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Date: 2017-06-09 11:17 pm (UTC)maybe the mask drew me in
This feeling, I know it well.
It's really weird that there aren't any named French characters in this film, now that you point it out.
Right? RIGHT?
Yeah, I'm going to go with Chief being Canadian, for the reasons you say.