Captain America: The Winter Soldier

[dhampyresa]

I just saw Winter Soldier and I loved it! It was great.

I went to see it with a girl I've met once before, who is the daughter of a former roomate's of my mom's, and who is coincidentally not on the other side of the Atlantic but in Ireland this semester as well. I like her! I really like her and we're going to go to the zoo at some point in the future and I am excited (and I will buy that elephant plushie I've been wanting to buy since one of my housemates went to the zoo and bought one).

I loved it, the cinematography was awesome, there was a bunch of really cool shots, Falcon was super badass, Black Widow is THE BEST and there were appearances by characters I did not expect.

Btw, it has two credits scenes, just so you know.

We got trailers for: Gardians of the Galaxy (Gamorra is so pretty!), Amazing Spider-Man 2 (Great CGI Spider-Man! Also GWEN STACY♥), X-Men: Days of Future Past (why would you look at this storyline and think 'this could use more Wolverine'? aslo they're going to be in Paris at some point hahaha no). We also had a trailer for Giro d'Italia, because this is apparently a thing now. I feel like my brother would have enjoyed this trailer much more than me, because he's a big (big!) cycling fan and it did look kind of cool on the big screen ngl.

Steve and his popculture list! I loved that. I didn't get to catch everything on it: Star Wars/Trek, The Beatles, WorldCup 1966. (Apparently different locations got different things, I wonder what's on the French list?) Also "No polio is good" FUCK YEAH IT IS

"I'm here to pick up a fossil." LMAO NAT Does she sit around at home coming up with Steve-is-old jokes? And this very short exchange between Nat and Sam made me ship it. "How you doing?" and she was totally checking him out.

I spent the whole part of the movie where they were speaking French with my hands over my mouth so I wouldn't disturb the others in the theatre. It's not that the French was wrong, because it was all grammatically correct, if not always thing people would say ("La ligne est morte" lol nope), but the accents! Mostly okay, but clearly not native speakers. There was this one dude who put an é where there shouldn't have been one (in the place of a silent e, so clearly noone had pronounced the line for him), so his line sounded like gibberish to me, yay subtitles! I could just about rationalise the accents away as the goons speaking French as courtesy to Batrok BUT THEN Batrok opened his mouth and I just kind of lost it. HAHAHA That is the purest Québecois accent I have ever heard, lmao. The girl I saw it with told me no one in the US would notice, which I can believe easily, but trust me that was as plain as the nose in the face to me. It's just so Québecois! There is no way that accent can pass itself as France French or Algerian French (not that Algerian French sounds all that different from France French, but since they made a big deal of Batrok being Algerian, I thought I'd mention it). I did like the shout-out to the DGSE, because hey that actually is the acronym for the French external intelligence agency. Overall, I liked the care that was put into the French-y parts of the movie (not like in Agents of SHIELD when Ward tries to pass himself of as a waiter because he's not fooling anyone). But still Québecois.

I loved Nat's fight scene and how it contrasted with Steve: he took care to not kill his goons, she didn't care so long as they were out of the way. Aslo, YAY WIDOW'S BITE

Cap + Batrok was a great fight scene and I did like that Cap sounded not fluent in French, but still competent.

On the one hand: yes, Natasha having other objectives without Steve knowing wasn't the best idea, but on the other hand: Steve, maybe now is not the time?

I loved loved the whole kill-Fury sequence, because omg people being competent? On both sides? Bestill my beating heart. Also, "The air conditioning is 100% operational" was hilarious. I clapped when Fury got out. What's in those lasers, man, seriously.

I will never get tired of Natasha trying to set Steve up or Steve jumping from building to building. Also WINTER SOLDIER DISAPPEARING ACT where'd he go?

Lol like anyone believed Fury was dead. Still a very emotional scene between Natasha and Fury. MAria Hill! I had no idea she was going to be in this! I am so happy.

Steve, that's not a very secure location to stash important, top secret info, as Natasha proves later on. (What did she do with all the bubble gum? Did a bunch of lucky kids just get spy sweets?) "I only pretend to know everything", oh Nat♥

"Public displays of affection make people very uncomfortable" / "Yes they do" and "Still uncomfortable?" / "That's not the word I'd use" lol Steve and don't ask how I know this, but the whole "going on the walk" vs "going on the run" thing is actually really good advice: running draws people attention. Just walk like you know excatly where you want to go and keep calm and carry on.

WHAT. Swiss HYDRA scienticist on magnetic tape because why not, I guess? Like seriously? A) Whas there really no one you could have kept on tape SHIELD and B) MAGNETIC TAPE ARE JOKING? How has no one converted Zola to a more portable format yet? Never mind deterioration of the tapes over time, what about access time?

So Nat was born in 1984 but worked for the KGB, an organisation that was dissolved in 1991, meaing she was all of seven when it ended. I can sort of see her as a seven-year old agent given her comics Red Room backstory, but it doesn't fit her dialogue, which seems to imply she made a cnscious choice to leave the KGB for SHIELD so idk wht's going on here. I hope it's that she's the Soviet response to the Super Soldier Serum, like in the comics and that the 1984 birthdate is a lie. (Also 1984? Coincidence? I think not.)

Yeah, let's just crash on Sam's couch. "I made breakfast, if you people eat that sort of thing" aww Sam

I loved the Winter Soldier's face when he lost his facemask 'my face maaaaaaaaaaask ): D:'. I just found it weirdly adorable. It was a really great fight scene and Nat hiding in the bridge's shadow to shoot him so he couldn't pinpoint her location using her shadow was great. As was her trying to get people out of the way later and using a recording to draw his fire and aaaaah she was great!

Sudden Hill appearance, yay! And the return of the traditional laser-on-steroids hole in the floor.

Can take a moment to point out that this scene has Black Widow (woman), Falcon (black man), Fury (black man) and Hill (woman) to Steve's (white man). I liked that. Iliked that A LOT.

Stan Lee cameo! And hahaha, the shield placement.

Falcon's wings oh yesssssssssssssssssssssss

No Sitwell :( I liked him. Also lol wut Stephen Strange what. So far they've been passing off magic as super advanced technology, but how do you do that with THE SORCERER SUPREME?

Hey, it's that guy from Community!

I liked Cap's speech. Like, I really liked it. What can I say, I really love it when people believe in people and people do the right thing. I really loved this whole section of the movie where regular people stood up for the right thing, because 'I was just following orders' is a bullshit excuse once you know how bad your orders are. I loved that the technician refused to launch the helicarriers, even with a gun to his head and that Sharon saved him (Sharon♥!) and "Not if it's your switch" yes you go guy-who-looks-vaguely-like-Alexander-Siddig-but-is-not-Alexander-Siddig! I really wanted it to have been not!Merkel with the heroics, because yes older women kicking ass, but I will accept Black Widow as she is also awesome and kicks ass.

Literally. Is women kicking men out lines of fire athing in this movie? Yes (Sharon + Technician, Nat + Not!Siddig). Do I love that it is a thing? HELL YES.

That was a pretty tense moment for a bit there, although there is no way that the helicarriers could hit all their targets at once given that they weren't that far up and all in the same area. What about the targets in India, huh?

Bucky saving Steve even though he doesn't know it's Steve! (It could be that it's to repay Steve saving his life in the helicarrier.) I feel so terrible for the Winter Soldier. 'Let's just wipe his memories, lol' and he just goes with it, because it's all he knows and oh my heart. Also oh my heart in a similar way, old!Peggy. Memory loss, no :(

It did not expect to like the Council as much as I did. They were surprisingly likeable and badass (keeping a gun on Pearce! NOT YOUR SWITCH!).

"It's all online. And it's trending." Yes, best!

Fury's eye! I really did not expect that, but of course he would get double security clearance.

Omg when Nat stung herself to get Fury to shoot Pearce! NAT HOW YOU SO COOL

I loved the ending! Nat mouthing off on Capitol Hill, yes! Everyone going off in different directions, boo. Sharon in the CIA! Wth, Hill at Stark Industries? Steve and Sam roadtrip!

Mid credit scene: OMG IT'S WANDA and Pietro but mostly WANDA. She's one of my favourite characters in comics, I really hope they don't mess her up. But WANDA!

End credit scene: Aw Bucky! He believes Steve now, even if he doesn't remember.

In conclusion: I loved it as the fact that is entry is 1.6k will attest, but HAHAHA QUÉBECOIS.

In other news! I am now a mod of nightonficmountain (also on Livejournal and Archiveofourown). It's pretty much exactly like yuletide except: in June, all characters in approved fanomas are allowed and inactive fandoms can also be allowed! I've never modded an exchange before, it's exciting! (Also, I came up with the name. I'm quite proud of it.)

Comments

[ashen_key]

1984 is the year Nat got out of the USSR/KGB, and I refuse to believe otherwise. I ADORE my 'verses where she isn't old, but even then, she's born in the 1970s. Natasha was twenty-eight when Avengers went down? Twenty-six when Fury trusted her enough to put her into Stark Industries? Lol, no. What. No.

MOVIE. MOOOVIE. NAT. STEVE. BUCKY. SAM. HILL. EVERYONE'S FACES. I'm still unable to be coherent about this movie. I just. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

(And Bucky didn't kill Nat five years ago. He could have. He clearly doesn't care about causalities. And he didn't kill her. I just, oh, by still my multishipping heart.)

NAT. NATASHA. I LOVE HER.

She is the best.

And YES what you said about the WSC. Everyone in this movie was very interestingly nuanced.




I think I need to see movie a third time. Then maybe I can get back to being coherent.

[schneefink]

The movie was great, and Natasha is the best :D

I'm jealous of the trailors you got. We got weird stuff with robots and a timeloop, Noah, a sports movie, and something else, but no superhero movies.

[silverflight8.livejournal.com]

*carefully avoids spoilers* Thanks for the heads-up about the two credit scenes!

[apgeeksout.livejournal.com]

I love it, too! Though I continue to be doing-it-wrong in terms of being fannish about MCU properties: I want ALL the fic about Sam's backstory. And all the fic of Steve and Natasha as BFFs, who occasionally kick ass and save the world, but mostly just hang out, giving each other both good-natured shit and room in which to be whatever kind of mess they are. And all the gen with Steve crossing things off his list in good company.

I don't have a link handy, but as of yesterday, there is one super-cute piece of Sam/Natasha fic up on AO3!

I didn't know there were variations on the list shown! How neat! I couldn't read it all either, but the one I saw (in a theatre in the Midwestern U.S.) included I Love Lucy and Nirvana.

I could have done with less-choppy editing/camera work in some of the hand-to-hand sequences, but overall, the action was really satisfying. Loved Natasha's fight with the Winter Soldier especially.

Sebastian Stan - whose sad eyes make me feel a twinge even for his less-than-sympathetic characters - is well-cast as Bucky, who I presume will continue to be the woobiest of woobies.

Can take a moment to point out that this scene has Black Widow (woman), Falcon (black man), Fury (black man) and Hill (woman) to Steve's (white man). I liked that. Iliked that A LOT.

ME, TOO! It's a small thing, but it's so nice!

I am excited about Fic Mountain! My nominations are already in, because I am totally one of those dorks who was already thinking wistfully about Yuletide. It is a good name; you should be pleased!

[shifty-gardener.livejournal.com]

I knew the french must have been pretty bad, since I could understand most of it :P

Swiss HYDRA scienticist on magnetic tape because why not, I guess? Like seriously?
The thing that got me was the way the digital picture of his face still had glasses.

tl;dr FLAIL

[silverflight8.livejournal.com]

LMAO NAT Does she sit around at home coming up with Steve-is-old jokes
I DON'T KNOW but I love how she seems to have one for every occasion.

For the French I was all "well I guess my listening comprehension skills REALLY SUCK NOW" and then I found out later he was from Quebec (ironically).

Yes to Natasha's fighting! I love how all three of them are fighting and how she's actually really good at using the obstacles and landscape in her fighting. She swings under the bridge, uses the cars as cover, etc.

but on the other hand: Steve, maybe now is not the time?
Oh god yes, I wanted to yell at Steve to not do it then (also when he was questioning Natasha in the hospital, Steve this is classified secret stuff maybe an unsecured hospital room where anyone might walk in is not a good place??)

I legit believed Fury was dead. Not enough comics exposure, I think :P Usually if someone's dead then that's it, bye bye.

I had a clap-hand-over-mouth moment when I recognized Hill in the ship--I didn't recognize Sitwell but I did recognize Hill. sjdkdlfj Also when she was like "this helmet is compressing my brain" --> relieved giggles and <333

Wait, he put the gum there? ...I'm not very good at watching movies, I suck at putting together storylines.

I want ALL the marriages of convenience/pretend couples thing for Natasha/Steve. OK to be fair I wanted them before the film but I still do. I love how she explains the reasoning matter-of-fact and Steve replies a little bewildered that yes, public displays of affection make people uncomfortable.

Also when he says he's been kissed in the present day...he means Peggy right? *squints*

Bahaha I said the FSB/KGB thing to a friend and she was all "...most people don't care/know"

Sorry man, but LASERS ARE COOL. (I loved the lightsabres burning holes through six inches of steel too, in TPM and stuff. Ahh. So disappointed as a kid when my mum's laser pointer was just a dot of light.) Fury must know DC's underground passages pretty well--I guess that's why he was gunning for that part of the town.

Oh a shallow note oh my god Carter-as-an-agent was gorgeous. She was pretty as Steve's neighbour but in the SHIELD headquarters, omg.

Oh yeah, Fury's second eye! What a perfect cover.

I think I missed the part where Hill went to Stark Industries...I did see Stark tower when they were showing the targets of the Helicarrier though! That was cool.

Ungh I am embarrassingly attracted to Bucky as the Winter Soldier. (His hair. HIS FACE. I'll stop now.) ;___; to him just clinging to what Pierce says, because that's all he can go on, and maybe Pierce is a bit of/the only familiar face he knows. I LOOK FORWARD to him reganing his memory and Steve and him reconciling. They're the only people from their time now; Steve is so lonely and I look forward to him NOT BEING LONELY ANYMORE poor thing.

I also love how nice Sam was. 100% most likeable character I've ever seen in my life. GOD. His wings are so cool too.

In conclusion: sdjklfjiwo

[silverflight8.livejournal.com]

Also I have now nominated for fic mountain WHAT AM I DOINGGGG /o\

[ladymercury-10.livejournal.com]

So Nat was born in 1984 but worked for the KGB, an organisation that was dissolved in 1991
That confused me too. I also wondered if the 1984 thing was just a cover birthday picked to have a significant year.

is women kicking men out lines of fire a thing in this movie?
I didn't pick up on that, but that's great.

I missed the second credit scene! I wonder if it's on YouTube yet....