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dhampyresa) wrote2024-03-19 01:34 am
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I went to see Villeneuve's Dune pt2 (VOstFR -- original sound, French subtitles) with a friend. My friend summed both of our feelings as "That was a movie that we saw". Because it was a movie that we saw. The first one was better.
The pacing in this one is really weird and also it was SUPER LOUD at some points. Really liked Chani's friend, but it was never explained why she did what the thing at sietch Tabr.
I was most disappointed in how the cisterns were portrayed. They had inspired such awe in me at 7 year old that I doubt anything wouldn't have been though.
I was also disappointed in how similar all the architecture was -- this might be because I've been thinking about environmental storytelling lately, but having all three main factions of Empire, Atreides and Harkonnen all have the same-but-a-different-colour architectural and clothing style was such a missed opportunity. Especially since in place a piece of Harkonnen architecture reminded me of H R Giger. Both pseudo-brutalism and psychosexual Giger-esque techno-organic would work for the Harkonnens. But like. Pick one.
Big Jodorowski's La caste des Méta-Barons vives in places which like, duh. But still a bit disappointing -- my own dislike of Jodorowski aside, it's a wee bit played out, innit.
The Fremen Reverend Mothers' tatoos and clothing were extremely reminiscient of Amazigh ones. Which makes the dearth of Maghrebi cast members more blatant/sad.
I feel so bad for the sandworms. Everyone keeps shoving things into their nostrils :(
The Muad-dib mouse was only in it for ten or so seconds but it was very cute.
The pacing in this one is really weird and also it was SUPER LOUD at some points. Really liked Chani's friend, but it was never explained why she did what the thing at sietch Tabr.
I was most disappointed in how the cisterns were portrayed. They had inspired such awe in me at 7 year old that I doubt anything wouldn't have been though.
I was also disappointed in how similar all the architecture was -- this might be because I've been thinking about environmental storytelling lately, but having all three main factions of Empire, Atreides and Harkonnen all have the same-but-a-different-colour architectural and clothing style was such a missed opportunity. Especially since in place a piece of Harkonnen architecture reminded me of H R Giger. Both pseudo-brutalism and psychosexual Giger-esque techno-organic would work for the Harkonnens. But like. Pick one.
Big Jodorowski's La caste des Méta-Barons vives in places which like, duh. But still a bit disappointing -- my own dislike of Jodorowski aside, it's a wee bit played out, innit.
The Fremen Reverend Mothers' tatoos and clothing were extremely reminiscient of Amazigh ones. Which makes the dearth of Maghrebi cast members more blatant/sad.
I feel so bad for the sandworms. Everyone keeps shoving things into their nostrils :(
The Muad-dib mouse was only in it for ten or so seconds but it was very cute.
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There was a very good article in The New Yorker about the centrality of Arabic to Herbert's Dune and what happens when it is replaced in the films by a conlang.
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Ursula Le Guin wants a word. (Not to mention Orwell, Burgess, Richard Adams....) The one I really remenver is Suzette Haden Elgin
(Yep, the author is a dude. Sigh)
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Look, I wouldn't have used Jackson's Lord of the Rings as the kickoff of modern commercial conlangs: I grew up around too many buttons and bumper stickers of Mark Okrand's Klingon. I still found the tracing of languages through Herbert valuable and agree it makes a particular political point when Villeneuve's future can contain spoken Mandarin and people named Jessica but not Arabic.
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The friend I saw the movie with speaks Tunisian Arabic and said it sounded a lot like Arabic while not being Arabic, which is a bit a bit nyergh of Villeneuve, I feel. Schrödinger's representation, I guess? And also having real Mandarin but fake Arabic is A Choice.
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Definitely nyergh. What a weird thing to hear.