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[personal profile] yuuago : Hannibal/Scipio

Well, I think my feelings about the good ship Hannibal/Scipio are pretty well documented at this pint, but just in case, there's now a whole new tag for these two.

So I'm going to talk about something slightly different. I'm going to talk about how shipping dudes two thousand years dead helped me feel like I was finally doing fandom right.

In the parts of fandom I run in, not a friending meme goes by without the dreaded "What's your OTP?" question. I'm a gen person by nature and even worse, I tend to multiship. I never knew what to say to that question. Seeing everyone else come up with effortless answers made it feel like the unspoken assumption of the question (that everyone had to have an OTP) was true.

Now I know what to say!

(I still don't define OTP the way a lo of people seem to, though. For me it is a pairing I will always ship, not one I ship exclusively. Afaik, no one's written Hannibal/Maharbal or Aemilia/Scipio yet, but man I will be first in line to read it if they do.)

Honstely, though? There are SO MANY places where the assumption of 'everyone has an OTP' crops up. It's fucking EVERYWHERE. "The most trope-tastic fic about your OTP" Define OTP. "What would your OTP do?" How the fuck would I know. "Imagine your OTP" I DON'T HAVE ONE.

It gets tiring, after a while. It's a bunch of tiny reminders that you, personally, are Doing Fandom Wrong. (This is bullshit. There's no way to do fandom wrong, unless you hurt people, but that's not what it feels like.)

I wish people would be more open to people doing fandom differently. Not everyone has an OTP. Not everyone changes fandom every few months. Not everyone sticks with a single fandom for decades.

So now I'm a genficcer with a badly defined OTP. I'm still doing fandom wrong. I've stopped caring. You do you. I do me. Hannibal and Scipio can do each other.

Next time, I'll be talking about Greek mythology. (The Meta Monday Masterpost is here. If you want me to talk about anything, let me know over there.)
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[livejournal.com profile] cherrytide : And/or the difference between writing fanfic and original fic?

The biggest difference between the two, imo, is that for original fic, you're alone. It's just you and your blank page.

I don't mean that just in the way of "fandom is a community that will support you and brainstorm with you and beta read your fic and a thousand other little things to help you write and post your fanfic". That's part of it, but not even the most of it. In case phrasing it that way makes it sound like I'm saying fandom doesn't support people original ventures, I will just say that is a filthy lie. I don't know if I would have written those three novel first drafts without support from people in fandom. (You know who you are and you're all amazing. <3)

No, what I mean is that, much like when you and your fandom friends find yourself in different fandoms, your friends are missing some of the context. Because half the worldbuilding only exists in your head. Or you're trying not to spoil a specific plot point. Or you added that character at the last second and you'll go back to edit their subplot in any day now.

I mean, maybe it would be different if I actually let anyone look at my draft-zeros as I write them, but I don't. Like with fanfic, I write original fic in a draft-zero that no one will see but me (this allows me to actually write, because only I will see if I fuck up and need to scrap a whole scene or whatever) which I then clean up and send to beta as a (finished) first draft. Because my original fiction writing is novels and my fanfic writing is short stories, it takes a lot longer for me to be done with a piece of original fiction, so I do sometimes end up feeling like I'm the only person invested in it. Obviously YMMV on this.


On a storycrafting level, though, you are also all alone.

As far as I'm concerned, stories have three 'objective' elements: characters/settings/plot (order deliberate, btw). Now, in my head, I conceive this as the three vertex of a triangle that provides the base for two pyramids with a triangular base, the last two vertexes of which are theme (below) and tone (above). But 'theme' and 'tone' are very 'subjective'. Characters/settings/plot are concrete, so I'm going to talk about those.

I always phrase it as "characters/settings/plot", in that order, because that's how I build stories: plot happens at the intersection of character and setting and at the intersection of character and character. So, (character + character) + setting = plot, basically.

The difference between fanfic and original fic is that all three of characters/settings/plot come from you, not from outside. In fanfiction, at least one of the three is from outside.

(Themes and tone are pretty much always personal. I'm tempted to say the combination of the two is what makes "voice", but we have talked about the part where I have no formal writing training, yes?)

Most people read fanfic for (and as a consequence most fanfic is written about) the canon characters. A lot of fic is also written in the canon setting (or close enough). Some fanfic (fusions) even borrow the plot from another source.

(Apart from possibly the plot, I categorise anything that borrows character and/or setting from somewhere to be fanfiction. Neil Gaiman's A Study in Emerald is fanfiction. Published, Hugo award-winning fanfiction, but fanfiction nonetheless.)

Actually, Study in Emerald is a very good example of a story that wouldn't work as original fiction. It's a story that relies on the reader's familiarity with the works of both Arthur Conan Doyle and HP Lovecraft. The reveal about the narrator, his detective friend and the criminals they are hunting would have no impact if the reader wasn't already invested in ACD's characters. The entire thing, including the adverts, relies on the reader going 'I see what you did there' for entertainment value. I would say "replace the names and see how well it holds up", but it would hold up, because it's good fanfiction and everyone is in character, including the setting.

That's the thing: original fiction and fanfic have different sets of goals and problems. When I'm writing original fiction, I make the rules. If, halfway through the book, I decide that the character who is non-binary isn't alone and in fact part of that society's third gender, I can! (I have.) When I'm writing fanfiction, I can't. What I can do, is rely on my readers' pre-existing affection for the characters to get them to read a story that's driven not by "what happens next?" but "how did we get here?", ie, a story told in reverse chronological order (I'm talking about Retrograde, if you were curious). That's one extreme, but I like to think that all my fics would fall apart if you took away all references to the original canon.

And now I am going to talk about how I Do Fandom Wrong.

A lot of people read fanfic solely for the characters and the (often romantic, often sexual) relationships between them. There are people out there who are able to write 100K+ stories that are only about Alice and Barbara getting together. I don't know how they do it and it kind of blows my mind. I can't write without plot. That's why there's always shit going on in the background of even the character pieces (of which I have, like, two). I'm not claiming my plots are any good, I'm just saying that I can't write for shit without them.

I need all three vertexes of that triangle, or else it collapses on itself and I end up stalled. I can't tell you how many ideas for settings or characters or emotional arcs or whatever I have just lying around, waiting for a plot (or to connect to something else to make a plot). So I write things with plot (I basically have to approach that part of the fanfic writing process like I do for original fiction). I've seen people talk about not wanting to read fanfic with plot "because I have canon for plot". On the other side of things, I've seen people outline a brilliant plot and then dismiss the above as essentially worthless with a "I ain't writing no gen fic here". (As someone who is mostly a gen writer, it's nice to know that the reason people don't read my fic not because I write in small fandoms but because people aren't banging. /sarcasm)

Another difference, I think, is that in fic you know your reader picked your fic for a reason. That reason is often that they like the characters you're writing about, but not always. Whatever the reason, though, they're already invested. You get some leeway to get to the interesting bits, because your reader expects you to get there eventually. They trust you.

In original fiction, you have to build that trust. It's not easy, but it's challenging and exhilirating and I love it.

I love fanfiction too. I can love writing and reading both, the same way I can love jumping from the 10m diving board and having hot chocolate with friends. They're different things. One isn't "better". I can like making shit up and I can like poring over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore (the glamourous life of writing for comics canons). I can love both and I do. What I don't like is people pitting the two against each other. Whichever side you're on, you sound like an asshat when you do that.

Basically, I feel like the difference between writing fanfiction and original fiction is that writing fanfiction is a shared activity while writing original fiction is not. (For me, at least. It could be!)


Next time, I'll be talking about an achievement I'm proud of, which might go under f-lock depending on how it turns out. (The Meta Monday Masterpost is here. If you want me to talk about anything, let me know over there.)
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Hi! Welcome to Meta Monday, in which I go tl;dr about stuff.

[livejournal.com profile] cherrytide : the experience of writing a novel?

I'll be honest: I waited until I'd finished the desert novel before writing this, because I felt having three novel first drafts would be better than having written 2.95 novel first drafts.

Disclaimer: I've only been at this since November 1 2013. I've never been published. I only have three first drafts finished, so take all this with however much salt you feel is reasonable.

I have a tag, that I mostly use when I use when I hit milestones in my original writing. All but two of the posts in that tag are f-locked, but the gist of a lot of them is that I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I'm not A Writer. I don't have a PhD in English or a Masters in Creative Writing or any sort of qualifications.

All I have is a computer and the stories I want to tell.

Words and a picture )
Long story short: the experience of writing a novel is a lot of writing, getting things wrong and then reading things months later and thinking 'you know, that wasn't actually that bad...'

And you know what? It's a hell of a lot of fun and I love all those characters so dearly (even/especially when they can be such idiots).

Next time, I'll be talking about writing original fiction versusfanfiction, ie: how I'm Doing Fandom Wrong. (The Meta Monday Masterpost is here. If you want me to talk about anything, let me know over there.)

dhampyresa: (Sad Cassie is sad)
Hi! Welcome to Meta Monday, in which I go tl;dr about stuff.

[livejournal.com profile] ladymercury_10 :Maybe your favorite/least favorite things about [Young Avengers]? And/or how your feelings differ between the different runs?

My favourite thing about Young Avengers is probably how hard all of them try to do the right thing and how brave they all are. My least favourite thing is the deaths.

I have a lot of varying feelings on the different runs, though.

I don't have feelings; And I don't hold hands. )

Which reminds me. Does anyone know where Eli got to?

Because it's been ages since I saw him in a comic. Even the recent Battleworld AU/whetever we're calling this current Marvel event didn't have him in the Young Avengers issue. (Everyone ever appears to be pretending Jonas never existed. Boo.)

Also, my favourite Young Avengers fic has now been Jossed, but remains forever amazing, so I'm going to rec it once more.

reclaiming her star (6582 words) by NightsMistress
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Young Avengers
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Characters: Cassie Lang
Additional Tags: post volume 2, shameless fix-it fic
Summary:

It's not the coming back to life that's hard, Cassie learns, but adjusting to what has happened after she died.



I hope that at least somewhat answered the questions!

Next time, I'll be talking about writing a novel. (The Meta Monday Masterpost is here. If you want me to talk about anything, let me know over there.)
dhampyresa: (This is my life)
So! Meta Monday is basically me going tl;dr about stuff on Mondays.

Right now I'm working my way through the questions from the December 2014 talking meme, but if anyone wants me to talk about other stuff, leave a comment on this post and I'll add it to the list.

The Once and Future Meta Monday )

I reserve the right to move the order of subjects around or answer under f-lock or whatever.

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Hi! Welcome to Meta Monday, in which I go tl;dr about stuff.

[livejournal.com profile] ladymercury_10 : Wanda Maximoff and House of M

House of M is the first comic I read with Wanda Maximoff in it. It showed me how kind she was and I've loved her ever since.

Let me explain.

9 images below the cut )


So those are my thoughts on House of M, [livejournal.com profile] ladymercury_10!

Next time, I'll be looking at more comics, in the form of Young Avengers.
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This isn't really meta, but it is posted on a Monday, so there you go.

[personal profile] minutia_r : "The one fanfic/other fannish creation that it always makes your day when people leave feedback on, and why?"

It always makes my day when people comment and/or kudos any of my fannish creations. I like knowing I made someone happy if only for a while. (My favourite kind of kudos email is when I see the same person has given kudos to several of my fics, because it means they were happy more than once!)

My favourite kind of comments are the ones that pick up on something specific I did or even just point out what they liked best. I need to get back in the habit of giving comments, but I try to leave these kind of comments too.

On the other hand, once I post a fic, it's done. I'm not changing anything about it, so if someone points out I made a mistake, all I'm going to do is thank them and shrug. I've never been in the situation where I missed a vital element of canon, but I suppose in that case I would pretend the fic was an AU.

There are a handful of fics on my Ao3 I wish I could have written better, mostly exchange fics were I ran out of time for editing, so when I get a comment on those my reaction is "It's not that bad, yay!". The rest of the fics are fics I'm proud of having written, so getting a comment on those makes me go "Nailed it, yay!".

There is no one fic that makes my day when I get feedback on it, because I always get that little "yay!" thrill and they all make my day. (I do feel special fondness for anyone who comments on my Hannibal/Scipio fics, because that is the OTP of my heart and knowing other people ship it makes me feel less like I'm all alone with my feelings.)

Next week, I will talk about Wanda Maximoff and House of M!
dhampyresa: (SCIENCE SMASH)
Hi! Welcome to Meta Monday, in which I go tl;dr about stuff.

I very nearly titled this "AUs are gold" but I figured no one wanted to deal with Periodic Table of Elements jokes at whatever time it is wherever you are.

So, way back when these were supposed to be a December Talking meme, wordsofastory asked "Favorite types of AUs! Or just your general thoughts on AUs."

Yeah. I have thoughts.

In which I take a while to explain the title )

Hey, you know what would be amazing? Eurovision AUs! Any canon, no explanation needed. Eurovison needs no explanation. (Don't tell me you don't want to know what a Doctor Doom approved Eurovision entry would look like.)


Next time, I'll be looking at feedback, especially as it pertains to me.
dhampyresa: (SCIENCE SMASH)
Hi! Welcome to Meta Monday, in which I go tl;dr about stuff.

Today, I coined the term "ficframed", which is to fic ideas what earwormed is to songs. They dig into your brain and won't leave.

Well, that was an easy meta post to write.

More seriously, I'm going to answer [livejournal.com profile] taiyou_to_tsuki: "Since you've read a fair bit of stories based on mythology-- how do you feel about translating characters from a mythic to a literary narrative? Are there any cases where you have felt a deity/other mythical being to be misinterpreted by the author?"

I've read a lot of mythology books and books based on mythology. Most recently, Rick Riordan's Percy Jackson and the Olympians and Heroes of Olympus series(es?) and Joanne Harris' Runemarks series. I'm not counting things that are only distantly related to myths like the Asgardian side of the Marvel Universe, but I've read a lot of that, too.

How do you feel about translating characters from a mythic to a literary narrative? )

Are there any cases where you have felt a deity/other mythical being to be misinterpreted by the author? )

Sweet Tanith, this got long!

Next week, I'll looking at AUs.

(I need some sort of meta icon.)

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