Like, Loki's story can be both "Man makes friend. Friend betrays Man. Man takes revenge." (...typing it this way I realise it works both ways with Odin and Loki) and "Man brings fire into home. Man neglects fire. Fire burns down home".
It very much can. Also, while we're talking myth-logic* interpretations, I'm fond of "society attempts to control things. Things include entropy. Society tries to keep entropy from happening by avoiding change entirely. This works for a while, then fails truly catastrophically." (Which is surprisingly close to my favorite story-logic interpretation: "Man gets everything. Man tries to keep everything. In trying to eliminate uncertainty he sows the seeds of his own undoing. It gets worse.")
*I wasn't going to be like "I talked about this too!" before, but it's faster to link you to Myth, Religion, Story than to redefine "myth logic" here. Though the concept is clearly not new to you.
My point is less "only X can say Y" than it is "people who are not X should think before saying Y", but that's very nebulous and basically a subset of "people should think before they talk".
Yeah, I can get behind that.
I sort of feel bad for, IDK, taking representation away or something, but on the other hand it feels really important to harp on how things like having sex to avoid death and getting pregnant by accident and choosing not to end the pregnancy don't actually define sexual orientation. So yeah. "Arguably"-- that's a really excellent word choice.
Anyway, this has been a fascinating conversation. Thank you! :)
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Like, Loki's story can be both "Man makes friend. Friend betrays Man. Man takes revenge." (...typing it this way I realise it works both ways with Odin and Loki) and "Man brings fire into home. Man neglects fire. Fire burns down home".
It very much can. Also, while we're talking myth-logic* interpretations, I'm fond of "society attempts to control things. Things include entropy. Society tries to keep entropy from happening by avoiding change entirely. This works for a while, then fails truly catastrophically." (Which is surprisingly close to my favorite story-logic interpretation: "Man gets everything. Man tries to keep everything. In trying to eliminate uncertainty he sows the seeds of his own undoing. It gets worse.")
*I wasn't going to be like "I talked about this too!" before, but it's faster to link you to Myth, Religion, Story than to redefine "myth logic" here. Though the concept is clearly not new to you.
My point is less "only X can say Y" than it is "people who are not X should think before saying Y", but that's very nebulous and basically a subset of "people should think before they talk".
Yeah, I can get behind that.
I sort of feel bad for, IDK, taking representation away or something, but on the other hand it feels really important to harp on how things like having sex to avoid death and getting pregnant by accident and choosing not to end the pregnancy don't actually define sexual orientation. So yeah. "Arguably"-- that's a really excellent word choice.
Anyway, this has been a fascinating conversation. Thank you! :)